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Is Playing as the Taliban a Case of Selective Anger?

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Is playing as a Taliban fighter too soon to be in good taste? Are people angry for the right reasons, or are they being selective and overly critical of playing a Taliban fighter?

On October 12, 2010 EA will release Medal of Honor, a title in which you can play as Taliban fighters in the multiplayer. A recent interview with Gold Star Mother Karen Meredith on Fox & Friends describes the problems she and many other people are having with the title.

At the crux of the matter is the issue of playing an opposition force that kills Americans during a still-ongoing conflict. But this isn’t Modern Warfare; these forces have a name, and the conflict is located in a real place. In the case of Medal of Honor, these forces are the Taliban and this place is Afghanistan.

First off it needs to be said that debating against the points of people such as Karen Meredith may come off as tasteless or insensitive. I am not making a personal attack against Meredith or attempting to blemish the loss of her or anyone else’s loved one in this conflict or any other.

I’d also like to put down the oft-toted rebuttal to Meredith: “It’s just a game.”

I hope the same people making that argument are not the same people advocating that games are art, because the hypocrisy is simply ridiculous. Medal of Honor may “just be a game,” but like all forms of media, it both has something to say and is able to have something said about it. We don’t live in a vacuum. If someone has something to say about a topic, then it merits discussion. You simply cannot dismiss an entire issue because of the medium the issue is presented in. Not only that, but you demean the entire gaming industry by rebutting in such a way.

Unfortunately the things people have to say about these kinds of issues are spearheaded by individuals like Meredith. For this reason these types of debates quickly become filled with pathos and as such become difficult to discuss in public without talking points or charged rhetoric being applied to obfuscate the issue. You get one side being labeled insensitive and the other side calling out how inane it is to get mad over a video game. Both arguments demean the other and do nothing to further understanding of the topic at hand.

Yes, it is true that you play as the Taliban in Medal of Honor. But you only play as them in the multiplayer. Aside from the weapon selection, the spoken language you hear, and the uniform (or lack thereof) there really aren’t discernable factors between the two factions in a multiplayer setting. Besides the objectives of the game mode, there is no greater narrative framework.

Regardless, Americans are still being killed in the game, and that is an ethical dilemma for some people. It’s understandable to have misgivings about playing a game where you kill fellow members of the armed services for entertainment. I know having named forces such as the Taliban make the killings seem all too real. But is this really the tipping point?

Look back to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. In one section of the game you play as Sergeant Paul Jackson of 1st Force Recon. While Jackson may be fake, the USMC and 1st Force Recon are very real. During the course of the campaign a nuclear device is set off, killing Jackson and 30,000 fellow Marines. This was demonstrated not only by a cut-scene, but by a player-controlled sequence where a crippled Jackson crawled around the wreckage of a burning helicopter before succumbing to his injuries.

Talk about a visceral experience. Not only was the player-character and his entire friendly army killed, but you had to experience and control Jackson’s final moments as he died alone in a foreign country. This was not a multiplayer sequence. This was part of the story required to complete the single-player experience.

Was the reason no public outcry followed this because the game took place in an unnamed Middle-Eastern country while fighting unnamed opposition forces? Are people so easily able to separate themselves from tragedy if only the names surrounding that tragedy are changed? Is it really because the Americans dying in Iraq Untitledistan are being killed by unnamed rebels, opposition forces, or Russians?

That’s not even to mention that in numerous other shooters Americans are under the gun. Look at the long-standing franchises of Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Medal of Honor.

I can’t give people the argument that World War II is okay to emulate because it was so long ago. It was only 65 years ago, and there are still people who feel its effects every single day. Not only in America, but across the entire world.

Even Meredith, a woman who has lost her own son in war, acknowledges that the loss of life during World War II has been mitigated with the passage of time. She even goes so far as to say that World War II titles aren’t based off the exploits of real people.

“War is not a game, period,” Meredith said. “And the fact that they’ve already done games about World War II, that’s far removed from our current history, and people aren’t dying…and it’s not based on real people.”

Open wounds may turn into scars, but there is still entertainment being levied on the loss of real lives – American, European, Asian – whomever. And they were most certainly real people. With real lives, real families, and real dreams. Maybe the passage of time is more powerful than I care to realize.

But if time can mitigate the pain of recreating war in entertainment, then the question still remains: Why is there no resentment from real American forces dying in other titles focused on modern conflicts besides the upcoming Medal of Honor? Despite where the bullet is coming from, the target is always the same – an American (or sometimes British) soldier. With American forces being cannon fodder in so many current titles, the introduction of a named enemy is the only new variable in the discussion.

Maybe it isn’t just Americans being killed that bothers people. Maybe it’s the personification of the enemy. Perhaps people want their enemies to be nameless so it’s easier to kill them (and be killed by them). It creates more of that action movie vibe – that kind of movie where a few men carve their way through hundreds of henchmen to reach the dramatic climax. And as much as it pains people to realize, the people that fight and kill American soldiers in real life aren’t henchmen. They’re people too. With real lives, real families, and real dreams.

That sentiment is where I have the most trouble with these arguments. Everything becomes so cut-and-dry along these nationalistic boundaries. We should all be questioning why games which feature the up-close slaughter of people on a grand scale doesn’t offend our sensibilities. We shouldn’t get angry only when people born under our own flags are killed.

War isn’t about nations fighting nations; it’s about people killing people. When entertainment emulates war, it emulates that sentiment. We should all look for answers as to why war is entertainment, and what exactly that says about us.

Stick around VGChartz later in the week when U.S. soldiers weigh in on the debate.

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SSDNINJA (on 17 August 2010)

I am still so very disappointed in the amount of people dismissing this as "just a game." I'm assuming you're all gamers, and you all have gaming as favored hobby. I couldn't imagine it any other way if you're commenting on a gaming site. Saying it's just a game is such a cop out, and it belittles our entire industry as a medium of expression. Should Super Mario be remembered for pulling gaming out of its infamous crash? Nope, it's just a game.

If people want to talk about this issue, then let them talk about it. Don't just come in to a conversation to add the comment that "oh what you two are talking about it pointless" without adding anything of substance to the debate. Tell us why it's pointless, beyond talking points. Support your arguments.

It's just a comment thread. If you don't like it, don't comment in it. (I think that's how it's supposed to go, still hate making bad arguments though – even as a joke)


johnsobas (on 17 August 2010)

seen this kind of stuff on fox news, they seem to think that the people reporting horrible things are the problem not the actual acts that are going on. When it was reported and pictures leaked about the torturing going on in Iraq, they blasted the person that leaked the photographs and had nothing bad to say about the actual torture that was going on. I guess we're supposed to live in this world where we don't see or hear whats going on and it fixes itself. Like i said, if reality is the problem, fix reality.


SciFiBoy (on 17 August 2010)

meh, so what? its a game...get over it, heck the fact we invaded the country IRL is considerebly more of a problem than this, this game wont kill anyone, the war in Afghanistan has alread exacted an absurd death toll that is only going to increase (on all sides btw, not just USA soldiers or UK soldiers, but Civlians...) and all for what? so the USA and UK have there military bases in the region? its sickening...


johnsobas (on 16 August 2010)

I don't get it, it's not real. If reality is the problem then fix reality, if it bothers you so much that a game reminds you of reality then don't play it. Don't blame fiction for your problems in reality. I understand the emotion, and she has a right to be upset but she doesn't have a right to destroy other people's rights.


Baalzamon (on 16 August 2010)

Ok, now that you mention FoxNews it doesn't surprise me that they would make a hype about it (not saying I don't like FoxNews). But yea, people like to complain so much about stupid crap like this, when they could just not buy it. By getting it on the news like this, more people are probably going to buy it because it sounds cool.

As for not having this portion of the game, if anybody played previous medal of honor games based in World War 2, you could be the enemy in those games too. You could be the Japanese and shoot the crap out of Americans. There are people that this would probably make go crazy too, but who cares.


kain_kusanagi (on 16 August 2010)

There's isn't anything really wrong with it, but I think because the war is ongoing and Americans are dieing every day to protect freedom for the rest of the world I think it's insensitive. It's not "just a game" when it causes real pain.


gurglesletch (on 16 August 2010)

People are just so backwards sometimes. I honestly thought it was fun to kill the americans in the beta. I was defending my country from an enemy just like you do in MW2.


GianCarmen (on 16 August 2010)

If you dont like the game stay away from it. Its as simple as that. Soon we will be hearing people say that this game should be banned.


geddesmond2 (on 16 August 2010)

Americans invade a country, get killed and complain about it when video games tell the story. I'm sorry I love the American people but some of there patriotic BS annoys me. Oh my god you can play as the Taliban. Our children might learn the other sides story and realise half of the Taliban are only fighting because we invaded there country and probabley killed one of there sons and daughters/ brothers or sisters.


GianCarmen (on 16 August 2010)

No its coming from the right, which is Fox news. When something like this pops up, the right is always on the forefront and there is nothing you can do about that. Sorry to disappoint you. Its true you have it on both sides, but the right are pros at it and not in a good way.


chuckyj1 (on 16 August 2010)

Since the Enemy is still actively engaged in combat with our troops...I'm going to have to say it should have been left out. I understand why it's included...but no good can come from this feature.


Baalzamon (on 16 August 2010)

Wait, you're tired from the crap from the right? Sorry to disappoint you, but conservatives aren't the ones that complain all day about racism this and sexist this and oh my goodness, you can't do that because it will hurt people's feelings. That would be the left, so I hope that doesn't disappoint you.

As for the comment I was going to post, it makes people happier to see American soldiers killing American soldiers in war games?


GianCarmen (on 16 August 2010)

I am getting tired from the crap from the right. This is how you combat this. Dont buy the game. Simple as that.


jonager (on 16 August 2010)

why don´t she start crying for all the hundred thousands innocents of iraquies and afghan that have died?, some of them even killed by american marines without any reason ! nah as usual with american, she only cares about her son...and saying WWII doesn't matter is very disrespectful for all the millions that fought and lost their lives so she can have the peaceful life she lives now, if Hitler had won her son would be the least of the things to worry about right now.


puffy (on 16 August 2010)

I really don't understand the argument here.. I mean this is a purely fictional piece of entertainment that is based on real events. Do these media types this that when people play these games in multiplyer they think, oh good, I wanna be the Taliban and kill some Americans? It's just a name and outfit to distinguish your teammates from the enemy team, gamers don't give a shit who they're playing as in these titles.


Icyedge (on 16 August 2010)

Cueil, "as they say about opinions and assholes..." are you really saying someone is an asshole because of his opinions on one subject?

"I value human life slightly lower then threatened species and my dog..." If someone give you the choice between killing a neighbor or your dog, what would you do?


Icyedge (on 16 August 2010)

Humans has a long history of violence, its part of who we are. Sure we have rules to determine its not right to kill and do violence. But its still in our nature as animals. Like Binary solo said, now games are being staged instead of real. His example of the Roman gladiators is good, not only people wasnt offended back then, but they took pleasure of watching people dying. Gladiators fighting or non christian being trown in with lions. I think we are getting too sensible and that it isnt sane to act as if humans have gotten rid of all violence. Its part of us and we need to learn to live with it, not do as it doesnt exist. So yes I think that in this case the girl is being too sensible on this matter. She will probably never accept it. She could instead takes profit of that, why not release her anger by playing the game.

On another related topic, video games doesnt cause violence. Humans are violent. Alexandre Legrand didnt need video games to cause 100 000 deaths in one day. In a society sanctioning violent acts, I think video game is a great media to help deal with it.


zuvuyeay (on 16 August 2010)

we've been killing each other in afghanistan for 1000's of years

who cares,load it up and get shooting if thats what you want


IvorEvilen (on 16 August 2010)

From what I've seen in the comments I have determined that Americans must be bad people because a few of them are upset over a game based on a war that is happening right now where family members are still dying? I can easily see why it upsets some people, and I do think it is a little tasteless for EA, but ultimately, I don't think it should be an issue, nor do I think anything should be done. I know some people prefer the extra realism or what the connection to reality so they can relate more and be immersed... it's still just a game though, and at the end of the day, it isn't who you are playing that matters, it's your multiplayer record.

:D


mr_capello (on 16 August 2010)

Is Playing as the american a Case of Selective Anger?


Ryukai (on 16 August 2010)

Remember the airport level of MW2? Remember how well that sold in the end? EA are trying the controversy style of marketing and it'll probably work. All that woman is doing by going on TV is helping EA out.


bmmb1 (on 16 August 2010)

Very good editorial. I think the main problem is the naming of the sides, and to a somewhat lesser extent this being a still ongoing conflict.


k1ngp1n (on 16 August 2010)

Great editorial. You just made me register and bookmark this site.


A203D (on 16 August 2010)

the way i see it is, yes its controversal. but EA are banking on that. they're trying to make an action game that sends a very real, serious message. they're trying to bring that experience as close to the player as possible. so i think as long as things are done well, then it will be a great experience.


Cthulhu (on 16 August 2010)

and why its ok to play as an american troop and kill the taliban?

Who invaded who btw? Also who made the taliban and why? Do the braiwashed Americans know?


Chrizum (on 16 August 2010)

Very, very good editorial. Probably the best I've read on VGChartz.

And I agree with Silver-Tiger, it seems it's mostly Americans making a big deal of Americans being killed. There hasn't been an uproar in any other countries about stuff like this.


Star-Wars-Josh9 (on 16 August 2010)

"Americans are still being killed in the game, and that is an ethical dilemma for some people." Is the Americans Superior to everyone else and kill one is ethical wrong. I thought kill any one was ethically wrong. So it is not an ethical dilemma for Americans to kill a Russian in COD or a Taliban member in this game if their Dad is one.


Cueil (on 16 August 2010)

hey Silver-Tiger we are the good guys there is a reason why there are several large military post in Germany and it's not to insure that the country doesn't repeat it's past mistakes it's to insure that the agreement isn't taken advantage of though I think that's hardly a problem with Eastern Europe starting to stablize.


Cueil (on 16 August 2010)

as they say about opinions and assholes... anyway as a Marine 98-02 I have no problems playing any opposing forces... of course killing humans doesn't bother me as much as it would someone else... I value human life slightly lower then threatened species and my dog...


Silver-Tiger (on 16 August 2010)

Why are these kinds of debates only brought up when Americans are killed? The way I see it, Americans are way too sensitive, when it comes to loosing. They are gettting their asses kicked in a Vietnam war game:"OMG!!",. they are getting their ass kicked in a Iraq war game:"OMG!!"

You know what? You're not the only people on the world. We Germans have to deal with WW II scenario games since videogames exist, we constantly have to bear German soldiers being shot in videogames and have to hear Americans yell: "Yeah, kill all these Nazis!"

Nevertheless, we never start debates if it's ok to shoot Germans in Videogames. Why? because either we don't care because it's a videogame or because we accepted that the Germans were the "bad" force in WW II. And maybe Americans should accept that they not always the "good" force, too. You Americans can't be always right. Accept it.


binary solo (on 16 August 2010)

"We should all look for answers as to why war is entertainment, and what exactly that says about us." If you want to get sociological on this subject then that sentiment is far too narrow. The issue isn't why war is entertainment, it's why killing in all it's forms is entertainment. Mario kills, Jak kills, Abe kills. In gaming, unlike in life (for most of us), it's kill or be killed. I guess not a lot has changed since the days of the Roman gladiatorial games except that the death is now staged rather than real. An important distinction perhaps?

There are a lot of non-killing games to be sure, and in intensely entertaining and engaging games too. So gaming isn't a one trick pony by any stretch, just like all the other mass market entertainment media.

Playing as a Taliban Fighter in multiplayer matches: tactless? Maybe; hits a raw nerve for some? Clearly; a cynical ploy to gain media controversy, hopefully sell more games, and differentiate the game from CoD? Possibly; substantially more objectionable than any other "realistic" (i.e. humans killing humans) shooter to those who find shooters to be objectionable? Not really; Will it be played by frontline American troops stationed in Afghanistan, and will some of them play as Taliban? Unless it's banned by the top brass I betcha they will. Though perhaps they'll go for Black Ops or Halo Reach for a change in scenery. More than likely they'll get all 3.

Have the critics considered that if playing as a Taliban Fighter in online MP isn't an option in this game than it'll be American soldier vs American soldier? Is that better imagery and Taliban vs American?